The Lies of a Female. Expanded

I made a somewhat quick post called “The lies of a female” which garnered a lot of negative feedback. It turns out that some text was missing and I should expand on what I meant back then, and what I still stand by now.

Original post is here:

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Tattoo girl: 'I lied about my stars'

The girl suing a tattoo artist who left her with 56 stars on her face has admitted she lied.

Kimberley Vlaeminck, 18, claimed that she'd asked for three small stars but fell asleep during the procedure and woke up with a whole galaxy on her face.

But she has now confessed she knew exactly what tattoo parlour owner Rouslan Toumaniantz was doing but changed her mind later.

She said she lied because her father was "furious".

As I would be. It was a stupid thing to do. Why am I mentioning this? Because this incident made me think about how women falsely accuse rape on the same grounds.

Many times women use rape for some of the most flimsy and petty reasons. Such as:

Excuses.

On further questioning the woman confessed that she was spending time with her lover in his car near the Shanghumugham beach. She cooked up the rape story to excuse himself.

Getting back at family.

A woman was jailed yesterday after her false claim of rape resulted in an innocent stranger being arrested.

In an attempt to make her family feel guilty following an argument, Kerry Saunders invented a story that she had been sexually assaulted after a night out.

Revenge against an ex.

'It has been a nightmare and I would not be on this earth if it had not been for the support of friends and family. I would be six feet under.'

That's how Briton Andrew Tutty described the ordeal his ex-girlfriend, Louise Johnson put him through with multiple false allegations against him, including rape. Read the article here (Daily Mail, 7/25/09). Johnson was recently sentenced to 18 months in prison for her crimes which the judge called "lies of the most vile kind." "There was not a word of truth in what you said," he added.

It all started when Tutty decided to break off his two-month relationship with Johnson. She went immediately to the police with the fabricated claim that Tutty had raped her. He was arrested for that and only released after he had made bail.

And no reason at all.

"To this day, we have no clue why she made this up," says Bekele's attorney, Robert Flennaugh. While the charges were pending, Flennaugh had tried, as defense lawyers do, to come up with some reason why Clifton might have dreamt up a false claim—some motivation, a grudge. In rape cases especially, when it's one person's word against another's, jurors need to see some reason for the victim to lie, especially considering how painful it is to come forward with such a charge.

Clifton had once contested a grade from Bekele, thinking she deserved a 4.0 after receiving a 3.9. And she'd sent him one e-mail that seemed possibly inappropriate. But that was it, Flennaugh says. They'd had no other contact outside the classroom.

Flennaugh would have had a tough time raising doubts in jurors' minds about the accuser's motives, a fact that still makes him shudder. Had she not gone so far as to create the bogus e-mails, his client would likely be facing a possible prison term, Flennaugh says. "If she hadn't lied too much, where would we be? We'd be in trial."

I found these in a couple of minutes of googling.

The reasoning process that this young tattoo girl went through is very similar to false rape cases. When I read this story I immediately thought of some of the reasons I have heard false rape accusers cite*. In this instance, she was not accusing rape, but she was accusing an innocent man of incompetence that could have gotten him fired or banned from his profession (not actually knowing how the tattooing profession works, but follow me on this).

In response to a situation she completely negated personal responsibility and, in my personal opinion, the character trait of personal responsibility is more of a male character trait than a female one. In fact, when people say that males need to find their “inner woman” to become more compassionate, you should retort that more women should “find their inner man” and become more responsible.

Joking aside, this is not funny. Because of these unbearably petty excuses listed above, women who do this can effectively destroy a mans life. His freedom and liberty is taken away, he can be ostracised from family and society, he may be raped himself in prison and in the worst cases he may take his life. These are all possibilities that can occur and purely at the behest of an evil little narcissistic liar who couldn’t control her petty little emotions and decided to put another person to the sword because of her anger or her rage. I’ve known women like this, all that matters to them are their own feelings, they feel entitled to be the centre of the universe and inflict their emotions upon you, be it by pouting and stropping about and pulling faces, or going to extremes like this. They feel entitled to do it and they are the worst sort.

Why is this important?

There are ideologues in this country, and others, who operate under faith based delusions that women don’t lie about rape, or don’t do so in any significant numbers, and who are driving the political system. Look at someone like Harriet Harman, this person is a man hating bigot who occupies a position of immense power, the Orwellian “equality minister” who is rampaging through the system (whilst she still has the power before these bums are voted out) instigating her female supremacist agenda. Being the classic feminist, rape is on her radar. As is par for the course, more and more men need to be held accountable for rape. I.E. The standard of evidence must be lowered. This is an end run around the concept of justice and will only exacerbate the situation.

Harman doesn’t believe that women falsely accuse rape in any great way, or if she does then she doesn’t care. People who believe in justice and fairness need to stand up against this cancer. Some people are the bottom of the barrel, both men who actually rape and women who would put an innocent man in prison for rape. Our current system where a man can go to prison purely on another person’s word is disgusting and a system that lets a person who would try to deprive another of their freedom off with a slap on the wrist is double so.

We need to uphold standards of evidence crimes, we need to punish those who try to get innocents tried for a crime, to have the same punishment as the person who they falsely accused would have gotten.

*For news about false rape, one of the best sources on the web is the false rape society.

Posted on: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:50 PM
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  1. Posted by: Mith on 8/22/2009 4:01 AM
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    Reminds me of the case here in the US where a team of sport (college) kids were outed from their university and pubicly dragged through the mud for supposedly gang raping a woman when a) the trial wasn't over, b) there was no evidence, c) the woman kept changing her story, and d) there was evidence to prove what she claimed was impossible.

    It too the Attorny General to go up and pubically announce that the men were innocent in order to get the media off their back and for them to get justice for being outed by their college without being convicted. Of course, some people can't let it go. Even after all of the above was made public knowledge, Rosie, the fat stupid bitch that she is, commented on the view that 'They did it. They know they did it. We all know they did it.'

    I mean, who cares what DNA specialists, camera footage, and the Attorny General says? A drugged up stripper whose story keeps changing with no actual evidence to back her up? Oh yeah, that's a label you can trust.
  2. Posted by: ArgusEyes on 8/22/2009 11:58 AM
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    Was that the Duke Lacrosse case you're referring to Mith? That was incredible, I don't mind a reform of the system with justice in mind but the feminists would just produce more Duke Lacrosses all across the country.
  3. Posted by: Mith on 8/23/2009 8:54 AM
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    Ah yes, that's what it was.

    Indeed, it seems that feminists don't care so much about justice. It's all about winning. They don't care about men--or even women for that matter. They care about winnig plain and simple. Be it intentional or not, they've done such damage to a vulnerable generation that justice is no longer being achieved, but merely public favoritism decided on the basis that women are perfect in every way...despite being as horribly flawed as men.

  4. Posted by: E. Steven Berkimer on 8/26/2009 4:13 PM
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    Once again, thank you for the mention of our site. Excellent piece.

    Harriet Harman is one of the greatest threats to individual liberty that Great Britain has seen in a long time. And you just have to love the irony of her position.... "Equality Minister". Equality for whom? From everything she has done, equality for women is all that matters.

    For those so inclined, I would recommend reading the study done by Eugene Kanin, as it actually classifies false reports as to why they were made. It is interesting reading.

    I would also recommend the Air Force study by McDowell.

    All the best,

    E. Steven Berkimer
  5. Posted by: ArgusEyes on 8/28/2009 10:28 AM
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    Thanks Steven. The "Equality Minister" position is the most Orwellian thing I have seen in our government, or any other for that matter. Equality for whom? Exactly.

    Enforced "equality" for one group means inequality for another, the literal same-outcome equality she wants for women MP's mean an inequality of recruitment for men. You can have freedom or you can have equality, but you cannot have both.
  6. Posted by: L-Plate Mum on 8/19/2010 2:26 AM
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    Believe it or not, there is one group of women who despises these false rape claimants probably even more than all you men do. They are the genuine rape victims of this world - and yes, they DO exist, before you say otherwise. The selfish, life-wrecking liars who falsely accuse are the reason many genuine victims keep quiet, don't contact the police and indeed don't tell anyone about their ordeal - often for years.

    This might surprise you, but when a woman is genuinely being raped she's actually not thinking about how she can obtain some DNA to present to the police as evidence - she's praying that, if she lives through this, he won't just kill her afterwards. Hell, she's not even thinking rationally at all - being raped bloody hurts like hell, and when he finally stops she's more preoccupied with getting herself home and cleaning up the blood and god knows what other stuff she doesn't want to even think about, rather than forming a plan of action for reporting him to the local cop-shop. Where she'd probably be interrogated by a male policeman and poked and swabbed by a male doctor - both of whom will probably doubt that she's telling the truth anyway...

    Then, she has to hear guys like the ones writing here and assume that the same damning verdict will be delivered about the ordeal she really did go through, and learn instead to blame herself - somehow it must have been her own 'fault' it happened, so it wasn't really rape at all and she's a nasty, attention-seeking liar for even thinking it might have been...

    ...And then, after years of secretly tearing herself to pieces - sometimes literally as well as mentally - she eventually, if she's lucky, falls apart and has to spend several months under psychiatric care trying to put her shattered self-esteem back together again. Most importantly, even after all those years of keeping silent she isn't interested in finding the perpetrator and 'finally' bringing him to justice - she just wants to purge the guilt and shame she's been carrying around with her all these years and get on with the rest of her life. Does that sound to any of you like the mind workings of a manipulative she-devil, hell-bent on Making Some Poor Bloke Pay?

    That's why we hate those lying bitches so much, because thanks to them we have to listen to men - who are probably quite decent, fair-minded individuals in their everyday life - sounding like they hate the guts of ANY woman who dares so much as mention 'the r-word.' Please don't tar us all with the same brush. Yes of course you're right; having an 'Equality Minister' is a ridiculous idea (particularly when that minister is someone like Harriet Harman.) But to say "We must not treat ANY rape victims with more compassion because SOME of them are lying, scheming bitches" is not helpful either. Get tougher on those 'victims' who turn out to be liars, give those accused of rape the same anonymity as the victims until proven guilty... but please, don't advocate telling all women "Suck it up, doll - we're not gonna lift a finger to help you bring the guy to justice until you can show us a full portfolio of scientifically-irrefutible evidence." Actually reporting a real rape is hard enough as it is - please don't make the genuine victims suffer just because of the self-serving liars.
  7. Posted by: Mark on 8/19/2010 10:00 AM
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    Dear L-Plate Mum,

    I don’t know who your comment was addressed to but it certainly wasn’t me. I seemed more like a missive, fueled by emotion, against an imaginary beast who doesn’t know about, or care about, women who have been legitimately raped.

    It’s easy to espouse both sides and then pretend like you’re the one with the answers. Tell me; if society is to be caring and understanding to the fact that a raped woman is likely to get rid of the evidence, then how does the bar get set to enable the capture and successful prosecution of their rapists and yet catch the false accusers?

    You argue in the direction of one extreme and then the other. I don’t think this issue is easy, I don’t have the answers on where to set the bar. I do know that there are people out there who deny reality, and downplay the fact that women are making these accusations. In these cases people are arguing for one extreme and can be easily rebutted but by rebutting them I am not, in contrast, endorsing the other extreme.

    We need a fair standard of law. For people to be convicted of a crime; there needs to be a reasonable amount of evidence. Rape doesn’t get to be above other laws in the requirements of evidence because of the emotions surrounding who is primarily affected by the crime. If it’s purely on word then we cannot convict. I understand that a raped woman will behave in non rational ways afterwards but we shouldn’t abandon our standards of justice because of it.
  8. Posted by: JaneV on 11/21/2010 7:25 PM
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    Why do you care about this subject? Really? All these poor guys accused of rape who are innocent. Sure the jails are full of "innocent" men.
    You actually seem like a chauvinist to me. Taking the cause of the falsely accused abusive man? Why? Were you falsely accused or were you correctly accused and now you have a soap box. I could read blogs all night long about these men who lie lie lie about how they were falsely accused of abusing women, but the facts are women 30-40 years old are more likely to die at the hands of the beloved man in there life then by any other thing. What must that feel like to be outweighed by 100 lbs, with arms 4 times stronger than your own? You would never know. Grow some empathy and rant about something else, this makes you seem like a pig.
  9. Posted by: wohodude100 on 2/1/2011 1:41 PM
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    Brilliantly written ArgusEyes, I liked the additional parts you added. I think its great that unlike feminist sites or even mainstream you don't simply delete the comments that you disagree with, but you actually take the time to address them and point out their flaws. Its also a good indicator of exactly the point of this whole site, true equality and going against the double standard that feminism has created. The double standard that refuses to punish women but is more than happy to punish men. A double standard where we're taught only to care about the victims if they're women, men should just "take it like a man". The hypocrisy of these women who are criticizing you is astounding and they are quite heartless because they're so blinded by the feminist doctrine that they can't feel any empathy for the victims of false claims yet are outraged when we point this out and accuse us of being against women. Feminists, I know you have this idea because feminism teaches women that if you're anti-man then therefore you must be pro-female and so therefore when we're pro-men the feminists mistakenly equate that to being anti-woman. Its not, wake up and get your head of the sand and realize the bullshit feminism is feeding you. Why should we only be outraged over female victims but not male victims?

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