Patriarchal Society via Socialization versus Personal Responsibility

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Posted on: Monday, June 08, 2009 7:47 AM
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  1. Posted by: Superchunk12 on 6/11/2009 6:54 AM
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    Dude,

    3:21-3:24, you said that women chose to have children. Do these children have fathers? Did their fathers chose to have children? And if so, do they get pay cuts as a result? What about women who are rape victims? I don't know if you feel whether a woman who is raped makes a choice to or to not be raped,but I'm going to say they don't Pregnancy from rape is super rare, but I'm playing devil's advocate here. If they didn't make a choice, should they get a pay cut?

    You're accent is intoxicatingly sexy, but please don't use it as a distraction from your intellectual and logical incincerity.
  2. Posted by: alexandr on 6/12/2009 11:49 AM
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    "you said that women chose to have children"

    What was wrong with that statement? Women, once pregnant can choose to have the child or abort the pregnancy.

    "Did their fathers chose to have children? And if so, do they get pay cuts as a result?"

    No, the fathers have no choice in the matter once pregnancy is discovered... In fact those who would choose to not become fathers have (in some places) money taken directly from their wages in order to support the women's choice. I.E. Women have reproductive rights, men only have responsibilities.

    Your comments about rape make no sense, if a women becomes pregnant as the result of a rape, she has the choice to either have the child or abort the pregnancy - In fact if the women has sex with a minor who is not legally able to give consent (statutory rape), the women will often get no punishment and the minor will often be liable for child support.

    "You're accent is intoxicatingly sexy, but please don't use it as a distraction from your intellectual and logical incincerity."

    LOL time for fembot bingo!!!! Please before attacking someone else's logic make sure your own logic is logical..
  3. Posted by: Mith on 6/15/2009 4:25 AM
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    -Dude,

    3:21-3:24, you said that women chose to have children. Do these children have fathers? Did their fathers chose to have children? And if so, do they get pay cuts as a result?-

    You fail to understand what he's saying. He isn't saying that women who have children instantly recieve a cut in pay. It's the way the majority of the gender responds to it. A woman who has spent most of her life climbing the corporate ladder married to a guy who works from home as say, an artist, is not going to follow that mold.

    However in most families, men go out to spend most of their time working to SUPPORT the family. That's the designation of the male in the terms of mating. They hunt for food. You can see it in species of birds and other animals.


    -What about women who are rape victims? I don't know if you feel whether a woman who is raped makes a choice to or to not be raped,but I'm going to say they don't Pregnancy from rape is super rare, but I'm playing devil's advocate here. If they didn't make a choice, should they get a pay cut?-

    There is no pay cut. It is a pay gap. Getting knocked up doesn't mean that you instantly earn less. There is no law or business model that says you suddnly earn x because you have a kid. The mom earns less because she is more likely to put her career on hold to raise her kid. Because she wants to. It's like how most men like sports; they don't do it because they have to, they do it because they WANT to.

    Having a kid is a major thing and most people try and do what comes naturally to them. And it's natural for a woman to want to stay at home with the kid and it's natural for the man to want to provide for that family to ensure that it works.

    Again, a great deal of Earth's species does this. Because it works.

    -You're accent is intoxicatingly sexy, but please don't use it as a distraction from your intellectual and logical incincerity.-

    ...You must be from America. To him, that accent isn't anything special. From where he lives, just about everyone he knows has it. Therefore, there is no reason for him to have a natural assumption that his accent allows him to dodge arguments...especially with someone like me who isn't attracted to males.

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