Idiotic viewer feedback #2 - I hate childbirth!

This one goes way back.

Filming people having sex is not normal and therefore could never be consensual. When a couple are in love are they always want to keep it private.Pornography is the same as prostitution and prostitution is multiple rape/sexual abuse.Anyone who doesn,t believe that pornography should be eliminated is a coward and is afraid of that people might think of you as anti-sex prudish odd and 'not-with-it'That is cowardlyFeminists can see that porn treats women as not human.There can never be regulated porn because it is not natural for women especially to have sex without love.It would still be only men who would buy porn because they don,t go through pregnancy,childbirth,emotions. It is unacceptable to be racist so it should also be unacceptable to be sexist.This is what porn is-sexist.Also you seem to have forgotten the obvious which is that sexuality is for procreating children and for love-you should not ignore natures rules. Very un natural

If you cant understand that hen you have been brought up with a very distorted version of sex education-if it can be called that. Another reason why porn is so humiliating is because is because of the pain women go through when they give birth and the hardship of pregnancy. Porn trivialises a womans sexual parts(sexual parts being the same as her reproductive/procreative parts) which is why it is so cruelly and sadistically insulting.

If you cant understand that then at least think of the fact that you would not exist if you mother never conceived you,carried you for 9 months and then gave birth to you.So you think that women are inferior then it follows you think that your mother who gave you life is inferior to you and to all men.Dont even think that childbearing is not important in itself and for humanity because without it there would be no people.

By the way, I've put this in paragraphs. The original email was all one big block of text. I imagined if this woman were saying this that she would be talking very quickly and in a high pitched way.

Filming people having sex is not normal

Define “normal” many couples film their sexual acts for their own pleasure. Also who cares about normality, the rules are not defined to maintain the common opinion.

When a couple are in love are they always want to keep it private

Nope. Swingers.

Pornography is the same as prostitution.

Maybe, but why is prostitution illegal anyway? Is sex legal? Yes. Is free trade legal? Yes. Is selling sex legal? No. Work that one out.

and prostitution is multiple rape/sexual abuse.

Nope. If it is consensual then it's not rape.

Anyone who doesn,t believe that pornography should be eliminated is a coward and is afraid of that people might think of you as anti-sex prudish odd and 'not-with-it'That is cowardlyFeminists

Punctiation is your friend. Also, you can guage the emotional sophistication of an opponent by asking why those who agree with you disagree with you. If what you get back is an ad hominemn then they are a very wise and unsophisticated person.

There can never be regulated porn because it is not natural for women especially to have sex without love.It would still be only men who would buy porn because they don,t go through pregnancy,childbirth,emotions

Really? Well how about you stop defining what women can and can't do based upon stereotypes about them eh? Seriously, generalisations are O.K. I use them a bit meself but you've got to provide examples. This flawed woman's email is a litany of generalisations and stereotypes. It's a veritable Gish-Galllop of hysteria.

Also you seem to have forgotten the obvious which is that sexuality is for procreating children and for love-you should not ignore natures rules. Very un natural

You know what else is unnatural? Cars. Give me your keys.

There is a logical fallacy called the “naturalistic fallacy”. It basically means that a person assumes that something is good if it is natural and/or something is bad if it is not natural. Poison ivy is natural and space flight is unnatural, get it? We as humans are where we are because we have risen above out environment and harnessed it to our own means.

If you cant understand that hen you have been brought up with a very distorted version of sex education-if it can be called that. Another reason why porn is so humiliating is because is because of the pain women go through when they give birth and the hardship of pregnancy. Porn trivialises a womans sexual parts(sexual parts being the same as her reproductive/procreative parts) which is why it is so cruelly and sadistically insulting.

If you cant understand that then at least think of the fact that you would not exist if you mother never conceived you,carried you for 9 months and then gave birth to you.So you think that women are inferior then it follows you think that your mother who gave you life is inferior to you and to all men.Dont even think that childbearing is not important in itself and for humanity because without it there would be no people.

I’m trying as hard as I can to follow this woman’s train of though and I’m coming up dry.<.p>

I’m anti-birth now? I don’t know what I said to set her off let along if I said anything about child birth. As far as I know I’ve always been pro childbirth. Since she petered out like a yammering cat woman I will try to sum up my opinion on porn as succinctly as I can.

Porn uses women, it exploits their bodies for the sexual satisfaction of (mainly) men in the same way as my company exploits my enormous programmatic prowess and brain power to tap away at a keyboard for five days a week. Or that a city council exploits the proletariat to fling our garbage bags into a big truck. Lots of us are exploited for our abilities and efforts. It’s called work.

This is freedom. In freedom some people are going to do things you wouldn’t. Get over it. As long as they are not forced to do it then you shouldn’t butt into other people’s business with your sexual hang-ups.

Posted under: Gender Issues, Feedback, Pornography
Posted on: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:09 AM
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  1. Posted by: ************************* on 8/27/2008 12:23 PM
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    Are we shifting from society of marriage institution to society of sex traders institution?
  2. Posted by: Pankaj on 8/31/2008 7:13 AM
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    to the string of stars

    No we are switching from a society of male disposability to that of male empowerment. Thank you, feminists, for pushing the carriage of chivalry over the bridge, the horses can be free now.
  3. Posted by: Jeff on 11/6/2009 11:31 PM
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    @Pankaj: There is a list that has been circulating the Internet humour forums and websites for quite some time, titled 'The Advantages of being a Woman'. There are variations in the list depending upon where you look, but the first item on it is usually "We got off the Titanic first."

    Chivalry had its time and place. Recall that women also had (rigid) obligations and restrictions under its code (for which, of course, they now blame men). It was not a bad thing (though a better solution may have been possible), it is simply now obsolete.

    We have had a serious problem in the past 100 years or so: Technology has caused societies to change faster than humans have been able to develop new social institutions to bring us into harmony with those changes-- and to moderate those changes in order to keep them in accord with human nature. Many of our ways of doing and looking at things, and of relating to each other, have become obsolete. This, of course, has caused suffering. Despite popular books like 'Future Shock', most people do not seem to understand the root causes behind these difficulties, so they fall to blaming each other.

    Male disposability is not just a social invention, it is a biological artifact, as is our drive to protect our women: The tribe was not as threatened with extinction if a man was killed while hunting for dinner, as it is if a child-bearing woman was killed. Modern technology and burgeoning populations have mostly neutralized this fact, though the behaviour is still coded for in our genes.

    Three crucial, life-changing events in the last (20th) century accelerated women's adaptation to the new reality: two world wars, and the birth control pill. While the men were sent to the front lines to kill and maim each other, women took over the factory jobs to keep the supplies coming. What they found out was that, in an industrialized society, upper body strength was no longer relevant. They found themselves quite capable of doing work that they had been told for years that only men could do. Probably the men who had told them that believed it themselves and didn't know any better, but women felt that they had been told lies to hold them down, even though the men of several nations voted for suffrage to be extended to women, partly in recognition of their war efforts. Women held even more factory jobs in WWII, building munitions and materiel. "Rosie the Riveter" became one of the first symbols of female empowerment. The Pill gave women their first true freedom from their own biology, and the sense that they would now have more options and choices in their lives.

    Men, on the other hand, have had only one life-changing event to bring them into the new reality. Far from being an empowering event, it has been a destructive one. Rather than helping men to adapt, it has been an additional source of stress to which we have had to adapt. I am speaking of the radical feminist backlash we have been experiencing since the 1970's, the most radical elements of which seek to replace the supposed patriarchy with a real, honest-to-goodness...matriarchy. We men are nearly 100 years late to the party; we have some catching up to do.

    Don't thank the feminists for male empowerment (even by way of "pushing the carriage of chivalry over the bridge"). We will have to fight for it much harder than they ever fought for theirs-- the opposition is real, and much, much stiffer.

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