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The lowdown on domestic violence against men

There is an area of the media that complexly lacks any semblance of fairness, or journalistic investigation and credibility. And that area is in how we report domestic violence. The general image we receive is of the nasty man hitting his poor little wife.

I think that Neil Lyndon said it quite succinctly in his book “no more sex war”: [1]

Reeling home with a head full of losses and a gut full of bitter and chips, he clamps his teeth into the cartroid artery of the starving Rottweiler before he rips the rags from the back of the little woman, belabours her with the dogs studded leash and takes his prick to the anuses of his screaming children.

We do not know of this horror on the terms of personal acquaintance. He is not one of us; but we have all agreed that he is out there somewhere and that he is the All-Man.

This is the general image of the modern abusive man.

And I’m not denying that men like this can exist. This is the crux of my whole attitude towards domestic violence and it is an irrefutable position. It is that, even if only 2% of domestic violence victims were men – we would still owe these men the same protections that the government offers to women. We don’t, in this society say that we are going to exclude groups based upon the degree of their involvement in an issue, we don’t say that because a certain minority is only 10% of the population that they somehow get less rights. No, they have equal rights. This is the most sensible approach to take with all problems.

Now it’s much more than 2%, in fact we don’t have a good understanding of the real number because we don’t even try to measure it. Our domestic violence policy is driven by feminists who deny that women can falsely accuse or who downplay the fact that it can happen to men. There is a good website called DV stats.com which contains a variety of studies but a realistic treatment in the media is lacking.

This argument is NOT about stats, which is why I am not presenting any. I don’t want to hear, “well thousands of woman are abused every year” because this argument is not about repealing the protection they get, rather it is about making it fair and equal.

But when we break from our common conceptions we may be surprised. For example, this is an article from the BBC. [2]

Survey finds male abuse approval

More than half of women questioned at a Glasgow university said they approved of wives hitting their husbands.

The Glasgow Caledonian students were among 6,500 women surveyed from 36 universities for an international study into attitudes on domestic violence.

Of the 200 women, 60% said it was acceptable for women to hit their husbands while 35% admitted assaulting their partner.

A total of 8% admitted injuring them - the highest rate in the study.

The injured men suffered bruises, cuts or broken bones.

Among European students, only English women were more likely to have carried out assaults, with 41% admitting that they had punched or kicked their partners.

However those inflicting injury was less than in Scotland, at 5%. Just under a quarter of those in Scotland admitted there were occasions when it would be acceptable for a husband to slap his wife.

The article goes on, I invite you to read the whole thing linked from my page. If this indicates anything, it is that we should be addressing how we look at this subject in the media. If those amounts of women think that hitting their partners is acceptable then the onus has been on one side for too long.

And we should stop listening to the feminists telling us what these figures are, they are intellectually computed by their belief system. We don’t go by the sole word of the BNP when talking about immigration or by the words of creationists on the status of science education in America, we need to be unbiased when talking about these issues.

Is this argument only about the media. No. It is also about the laws, when I have to listen to female politicians stating that a new law is to aid the “women and children” of domestic violence, I get incensed by this. They’re called women’s shelters for a reason. And these shelters are also funded by the government which, from a layman’s perspective seems to be an anti-constitutional act.

And where was the law when singer Amy Winehouse [3] admitted to beating up her husband. Maybe the reaction of the police was the same as the reaction of a policeman I saw on a program when a man told him that his wife beat him up – he laughed and snorted. We are so off center as a society that it sickens me. She faced no retaliation for that comment and it would probably be fair to say that she expected none.

How about this article from the Daily mail [4] that reproduces a number of standard nonsensical statements about DV against women. The level of the comments that the women featured in this article make demonstrate how modern women – maybe the kind of women in that Scottish survey, think about the subject.

Not one mention of man, it’s women, women, women. And quite frankly I am insulted as a man by the idea that any pain my gender goes through is lesser when compared with women. They say “women and children first”, our attitude to men is that they are dispensable, this is offensive. We should expect more from the 21st century.

Sources
[1] No more sex war p20-24 ch2, Neil Lyndon, ISBN 0749315652
http://www.amazon.co.uk/More-Sex-War-Neil-Lyndon/dp/0749315652/ref=sr_1_1/026-7851468-7467616?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184271691&sr=1-1

[2] Survey finds male abuse approval
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/5092100.stm

[3] U.K. Singer/Songwriter Amy Winehouse Brags About 'Beating Up' Her Husband
http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=886

[4] Hitting Back
Daily mail, Friday, February 2, 2007

Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:09 AM
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# re: The lowdown on domestic violence against men

Posted by: Yvonne Bolouri on 5/11/2008 8:53 PM
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This is indeed a long shot but could be worth it. I'm a journalist at The Scottish Sun and am doing a feature on domestic violence against MEN in Scotland. I need some willing interviewees. I well understand a reluctance to be named or photographed, but I need genuine cases so could work round that.
My direct line here at The Sun in Glasgow is: 0141 420 5291 and I'll be back at my desk on Monday. Please give me a call.

# re: The lowdown on domestic violence against men

Posted by: Hermil LeBel on 5/11/2008 8:53 PM
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DV industry is going full swing here in Feministan, formely known as Québec. Here, Status of Women lobby, publicly funded, are using the National Assembly institution to modify the charter of rights in order to give women a hedge in court! Falses allegations of DV are so common that about half of the inmate population in provincial jail went in throught that door...

We have a group called "La Coalition pour la Défense des Droits des Hommes du Québec" and a web site www.coalitiondeshommes.org
for those who read the french language and a petition on line...
http://bisbille101.blogspot.com

# re: The lowdown on domestic violence against men

Posted by: Brendan P on 12/19/2008 10:08 AM
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# re: The lowdown on domestic violence against men

Posted by: Jonathan Dale Sr on 3/16/2009 2:58 PM
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I am using a computer in a Senior Building, I have no real Email address. Mine wife mentally abuse me. It was all about control. When I called the police when she hit on the head with a frying pan, when they came, they asked was their a bump on my head or was their blood. when they went to her, she said I threatened her. They believe her. In talking to some women, they have the impression that men are the abusers. The police in Jersey City, New Jersey believe anything a woman tells them. Even dealing with some agencies, talking with women who work in these places, they believe that I was the abuser. I switch from a woman to a male therapist. Women just don't get it. My address:
Jonathan Dale Sr., 94 Union Street, Apt 1213, Jersey City, NJ 07304.
I was Homeless because of the situation. If it was not for the support and prayers, I would be out in the street.

# re: The lowdown on domestic violence against men

Posted by: ArgusEyes on 3/19/2009 12:42 AM
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Hi Jonathan, I feel for you. I can't imagine how incredulous you must have felt.

# re: The lowdown on domestic violence against men

Posted by: Martin on 5/15/2009 4:28 AM
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Hi Jonathan,
I know well your story, my best friend, here in Féministan, was in similar situation your are, violanted by his girl friend and the day he call police for help they bring him into jail! His blood was on the floor but the agressor can only be a men! One word from her and he go in jail no matter the facts, wellcome to Féministan!

# re: The lowdown on domestic violence against men

Posted by: Brian on 7/29/2009 1:09 AM
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Here in the United States if a man calls police for domestic violence he can be taken to jail. We put pictures of little boys on the side of buses that say "When I grow up I will kill my wife" Men are turned away from all domestic violence assistance. Boys 12 years of age or older are not allowed to come into shelters.


My friend told me his uncle was beaten over the head by an older rotary telephone by wife. He called the police and they took him to jail, blood coming from his head and all!!!

DISABUSING THE DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC ABUSE: HOW WOMEN BATTER MEN AND THE ROLE OF THE FEMINIST STATE Florida State University Law Review: domestic violence is equally the province of women by LINDA KELLY:
Florida State University Law Review
http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/304/kelly.pdf

Men Shouldn't Be Overlooked as Victims of Partner Violence

By Joan Arehart-Treichel

Psychiatric News August 3, 2007
Volume 42, Number 15, page 31
© 2007 American Psychiatric Association
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/42/15/31-a

# re: The lowdown on domestic violence against men

Posted by: Martin on 8/27/2009 4:58 AM
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«We put pictures of little boys on the side of buses that say "When I grow up I will kill my wife"»

For sure this will have no effect on the american little boys... They will not suffer of this...
Any way «they» DON'T CARE of little boys! As far «they» seem concerned the little boys can DIE, no problemo.

How they can care, we are no longer listed as human being in their mind!
we have been dehumanized and demonized (hmm.. exactly what the Nazi does...)
We also have systématic discrimination laws (like ... you know... )
Etc.

And they said we are abuser! Shame on them!

# re: The lowdown on domestic violence against men

Posted by: saska on 1/15/2010 11:03 PM
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if Yvonne Bolouri wants to contact me she can at the above mail. i have v interesting story for her.

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