Bad Feminist

This is a continuing rebuttal of the rebuttal that iwentdowntotheriver, who will henceforth be referred to as “river”, made of my video “the problems with feminism”.

River starts by claiming that this isn’t really an issue that feminists use misleading statistics because, to paraphrase him, everyone does it. Well this is a logical fallacy and it’s called “Tu quoque” or “you too”. Basically it is the idea that it’s okay to perform a certain fallacious or wrong act because someone else does it as well.

And I’m a bit confused here. Is River making a point against me here or for me? If he admits that feminists do indeed do it. Then is it not a problem with feminism as I have stated it is? To quote a great man, Jon Stewart.

“When you go to a zoo and see a monkey throwing poop. You just say “that’s what monkeys do, what are you going to do?”. What I wish the media would do more frequently is say “bad monkey””.

Should we accept a politician’s corruption with a wave of the hand and say that’s what politicians do. No we should not. So, again, the proper response would be “bad feminist”.

River expands upon the rape stat and I haven’t yet made a video about this. And for any meaningful representation of what I think he will have to wait until I make a video that addresses it. But I will make a short comment here that I absolutely believe that there should be an element of force for it to be rape, every dictionary definition of rape contains some element of force and this is what every person understands when they hear the word. Which is the image of a brutish man grabbing an innocent woman in a darkened alleyway and viciously raping her. And it is an image that the feminists have exploited to suit their agenda, very well. I will make no qualms that what feminists have done with the issue of rape is one of the most evil things that the movement has done, and I try not to use the word evil unless I really mean it.

To sum it up Rivers definition of having sex when you don’t want to as being rape is ridiculous and stupid. I always like to be a bit more diplomatic than that but I can’t in this situation. Let’s take his definition to its logical conclusion so a woman who has sex with a man and later decides that it was a bad idea can now claim that she was raped. Let’s say that River has a girlfriend and she pulls this trick on him? What will he think of it then? Will his feminist apologist platitudes stop for a second and give way to a more honest statement that this is, indeed, bullshit?

How can something as horrible as rape now be something that you can do accidentally feminism has taken us into a brave world where men are now rapists without intending to be so or knowing they are doing it.

Sexist laws

We simply differ on our most fundamental concepts here. River thinks that the idea of giving women a head start is fine. I do not. I think that no one gets special treatment. They get equal rights but nothing more. And never the twain shall meet

If that is the stance of a feminist then that’s fine, I think they’re wrong, but they’re entitled to their opinion. But when they start that they, as a feminist, are interested in equality but then blatantly support inequality then that is a problem! And I don’t think it is unreasonable to mention that.

River then goes on to emphasize with the poor women who have for millennia been down trodden by the privileged men with their hobnailed boots whilst they went on to live the life of riley. This is what I like to describe as the “fabled oppression of the past” and I will make a separate video to discuss it. For now, may I suggest that the past is the past and a woman in today’s world would have to be pretty old in order to remember where any genuinely oppressive laws existed? Any young woman will have lived a life of complete equality so why do these women deserve a “leg up” because of the fabled oppression of the past where no modern woman suffered from oppressions inflicted on them by no modern man? It’s ridiculous, it’s the same excuse that people who want reparations want.

Women have had a lot given to them already. I would also claim that the women who have benefited from this the most are the women who deserve it the least. So may I suggest that we hang up this ridiculous notion of special privilege and reach true equality.

Sexist laws

Related to the laws for women was the issue of being beaten out for a job. I don’t know where the idea of “white men” came from, Feminists love to talk about “white men” I don’t know why that’s is important, anyway river asks why white men feel threatened by women getting to the same level as we are. I doubt river has had any personal experience with this. I have, and it isn’t a nice feeling.

“threatened” doesn’t come into it, it’s about fairness. I don’t believe that payback is fair game. If this is the feeling that women were supposedly going through then how productive is getting their petty revenge going to be. It is going to create a backlash which might hurt them in return. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Again, this comes down to what we think River seems to think it’s perfectly fine, I think that no one gets to be special. And I don’t think it is an arrogant thing to suggest that my view is more equalitarian then the other.

About DV shelters

He says he can’t understand how feminists would want to protect women at the expense of men. Well in many cases this is not intentional but stems from flawed feminists theory. The idea of patriarchy and the Duluth power wheel in some way prohibits thinking that men can suffer from DV. But if they do admit this then sometimes they just don’t care. That sounds harsh but many people who have talked to me when discussing this issue say that the feminists have the interests of women first and that alternative groups may want to fund shelters for men.

And that is a valid point and can be made but don’t come to me after that saying that feminism is about equality and that feminism serves the interest of men. FEM-inism is about serving the interests of women and that’s what I mean when I say it’s gynocentric.