Women are more sexist then men



This is probably the most controversial of my videos. I don't get how feminism who seem to make an industry out of hating men and proclaiming them "sexist chauvinist pigs" cannot concede that they are more sexist than men.

I have never known an attitude amongst men that is as demeaning to women as the default hostility most women have towards men. The best example of this in men seems to be rap music which I am completely against.

Then there is the completely insane view that women can in no form actually be sexist. I have nothing to say to people like this, maybe I will make a video about it in the future.

Posted on: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:51 PM
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  1. Posted by: inetbl on 5/11/2008 1:39 AM
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    I'm stuck on this sentence. "The best example of this in men seems to be rap music which I am completely against." does that mean you are against rap music or the argument that much of rap music is sexist towards women? I'm not trying to sound clever or demeaning :P
  2. Posted by: ArgusEyes on 5/11/2008 1:39 AM
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    Hi Chris, I say I am against rap music mainly because I despise it and cannot stand to listen to it. From what I have heard of it from snippets, it seems to be quite misogynist. So the argument that rap music is sexist towards women that many feminists use seems to be correct to me.
  3. Posted by: CatcherInTheRye on 5/11/2008 1:39 AM
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    You are so on point. This is the first time I've come across your site, and I'm pretty floored. Everything I've read or heard here so far has resonated very strongly with me. It's good to have someone voicing these opinions. Keep doing what you're doing, man.
  4. Posted by: Lizzie on 6/27/2008 2:33 PM
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    I completely agree. Sexism can go both ways. not many women can admit this!
  5. Posted by: Kool4caats on 6/29/2008 1:59 PM
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    I completely agree. As a male, working in a department of mostly females, I hear man-bashing remarks on a daily basis. If I were to use the equivalent back I would be labeled a sexist, but it seems somehow justified for the women to use it. Often they will gather in huddles and gossip as well, it's really not a nice environment to work in, and I am now on the look-out for a new job, mostly as a result of this.
  6. Posted by: disappointedinhumanity on 12/12/2008 4:10 AM
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    Hello. I believe feminism is the goal towards attainment of basic human rights for everyone. However the amount of violence towards women especially rape is undeniably staggering. I don't think that this website tries to deny that, but I was just curious what you do feel about these issues, you know general opinion. I feel like this website is a response to a very stereotypical image of what feminism is, which is fine, but what about the real issues. What about saying who cares to "who is more sexist", and saying we care about people getting their rights. It just seems there could be a much more useful application of this message than saying, men vs. women, and that one is more sexist than the other.
    Peace :)
  7. Posted by: ArgusEyes on 12/14/2008 6:58 AM
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    To disappointedinhumanity:

    “I believe feminism is the goal towards attainment of basic human rights for everyone.”

    Would that be a belief based upon evidence? Or something you believe because you want to? Because I would like to know why you believe that.

    “However the amount of violence towards women especially rape is undeniably staggering.”

    I think you’re buying into lies about rape. Rape is less prevalent than you think it is. And by the way, men are more the victim of violence than women are. Violence is illegal but you cannot help people who do not want to help themselves. What are you going to do about the woman who stays with a batterer and covers for him? Nothing. And you shouldn’t violate the basic rights of innocent until proven guilty for the specific unachievable utopian purpose of eliminating all violence against women.

    “I feel like this website is a response to a very stereotypical image of what feminism is.”

    You know what they say about stereotypes.. They’re generally true. I base my opinions on the feminists themselves. Forget about the stereotypes about what feminist appear to be for a moment. Their ideas are bad, their scholarship is poor. They spread bad information and damage young women, stereotypes aside.

    “which is fine, but what about the real issues. What about saying who cares to "who is more sexist"”

    You do know that I have made other videos, right?

    “and saying we care about people getting their rights.”

    What rights to women not have that you want them to have?

    Mark
  8. Posted by: Casshan on 12/14/2008 9:00 AM
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    I'm curious as to the last 2 posts. Basic human rights for all? What are basic human rights? There are a few answers depending on where your coming from and its easier to use the most basic of all rights as an example. 1, you have no "basic" human rights-anyt "right" you have is a lie and is given to you by something that has a bigger stick than the other guy meaning it isn't a right ,but something on loan that can be taken away. 2, your right to exist-NOT THE RIGHT TO BE BORN ,but the right to just exist even if its only in the womb for 3 months. 3, Your right to be alive- well this is just silly considering how many people are killed legally ,but it is also the best one. Why? because something like abortion takes away an unborn childs right to be born,live, and well everything else. And this conflicts with "womens rights" for some reason(logic dictates that the act of sex has the sole purpose of creating offspring negating the right to her body since she made the "choice" already) ,but even then its stupid. The point? I'm not really sure, I got off on a rant there ,but I think it was that "rights" are opinion and its a real bitch to make things equal and shiny based on opinion.
  9. Posted by: lindsey on 5/28/2009 1:12 PM
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    Women are not just sexist towards men, they are sexist towards each other. I have had more sexism off women then i have had from men. Women cannot stand another woman to have a different view to her, or for her to know something she does not know. If a woman becomes anything, it is women who try to pull her down. By gossip, exclusion and other indirect means. Older women exclude younger women from networks, while older men welcome younger men into clubs and networks. This is why women only clubs and networks can never expand, no progress can be made without new ideas. Women only networks make no progress as when a younger woman brings in new ideas, the older ones want to stamp on her. Women like to form a pack where everyone has the same opinions and ideas, this stops progress.

    Also just for the record, i am a lesbian and have lots of experience of women only places, both straight feminist ones and gay ones. Many lesbians i know get on well with men as friends for the above reasons. Even lesbian only groups have these problems, but not to the level that straight women's groups have. I would never work in a place that was women only, many people find this odd when they hear a lesbian say this.

    Most straight women may say sexist things about men, but most would rather have a male boss, most listen to male opinions more, and most know how to be nice to get what they want out of men. I also am an equalist, i think everyone should have equal chances in life, and the freedom to express our selves. This includes men being allowed to cross dress in public and at work without being bullied, infact my views are radical in that i think everyone should be free to be as masculine or feminine as they want, no matter what there birth sex is. To me gender is a spectrum, while gender roles are constructed. Both sexes are a barrier to true equality. Many feminists are also a barrier to true equality, many are middle class and spoiled. There needs to be a new equality movement that goes behond the gender binary. One that is about respecting gender identity and differences, and not restricting people based on them.
  10. Posted by: Lynda on 5/29/2009 9:43 PM
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    No I will never concede that women are more sexist than men because I see no proof of this! Women and men can be equally as sexist. You say you have never seen the same kind of sexism from men. Now usually I can respect differing opinions but this is a flat out lie!

    Unless you are saying you never read the replies to your post on youtube!

    This type of thinking is what causes prejudice. How many women do you know? How many men do you know? You are basing the idea that we're more sexist on what? That you haven't heard it? Have you done a study of some kind? Maybe you know a lot of man hating women-I know a lot of woman hating men. So how can you make such a generalized statement?
  11. Posted by: Mith on 6/2/2009 5:10 AM
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    To say that women are more naturally sexist than men would be a flat out lie, but I don't that's what was meant here. However, feminists go out of their way to paint males as the bad guy and to get special rules for women so they can be treated as perfect equals in every single aspect...not just given equal opportunity.

    And because of that propganda, women may be taking on a more sexist attitude without even realizing it. On par, most women aren't actively out to get men, but they're told that they're being cheated and that paints the world in a negative view for women.

    And it doesn't help that so many women now seem to be equating male success with female success. Males want high paying jobs for their family and now women are treating the success for males as the demanded success for everyone. That isn't to say that a women can't get a high paying job and see it as an achieved goal, but it shouldn't be used as a benchmark to determine what females should aim for.

    The feminist movement is sexist in nature and it's starting to drag down the rest of women everywhere by poisoning their view of men.
  12. Posted by: bob on 6/26/2009 7:28 PM
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    how are women more sexist
  13. Posted by: danny on 11/21/2009 1:15 AM
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    this is true, in my school i have a really sexist teacher who makes remarks as "men, they cant do anything right... give them a simple task and it all goes wrong!" an then shouts at me for no paying attention when the girl right next to me is talking to her friend behind her!
  14. Posted by: Man-loving, Leg-shaving FEMINIST on 3/9/2010 5:09 AM
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    The fact that this site exists reinforces the need for feminism.

    Also, there is a spelling error in the title of the video post. If you wish to be taken more seriously (which is an almost comical feat) I suggest you edit it.
  15. Posted by: ArgusEyes on 3/9/2010 8:52 AM
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    @Man-loving, Leg-shaving FEMINIST
    Thanks for taking the time to express you ridiculous and meaningless opinion. Might as well have said "I hate yooo!".
  16. Posted by: Pankaj on 3/9/2010 7:26 PM
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    @Man-loving, Leg-shaving FEMINIST

    And it is attitudes like yours - is the reason people call feminists - fema-Nazis.. with apologies to female Nazis. And like all Nazis (and Commies and fascists) - fema-Nazis must be opposed.
  17. Posted by: Arielle on 3/19/2010 9:11 PM
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    I don't see how women are more sexist than men. Women are still either "sluts" if they like sex too much or "prudes" if they don't like it enough. Also, go on YouTube and tell me how many videos you see where the girl/woman who made the video is randomly insulted for her supposed ugliness, weight, bitchiness, slutty mannerisms, etc. And don't even get me started on how the majority of religions consider women subservient to men.

    While I don't condone sexism against males, to say that women are more sexist is utterly ridiculous. Some males may *perceive* it to be so, but from a worldwide standpoint, women usually get the short end of the stick. Once again, sexism is wrong, period. But to say that women are inherently more sexist is ignorant on so many levels.
  18. Posted by: Pankaj on 3/19/2010 10:17 PM
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    Arielle,

    How many countries have you lived in? To claim that you have a "worldwide" standpoint from what you learned in some class room or from the media .. is highly arrogant. Please tell me you have more credentials than say.. me who has lived in 3 continents of this planet, with 3 different societies, the Middle east, asia and America. The more I learned about these societies living amongst them, the more irksome these claims of "worldwide" viewpoint becomes to me. So please.. establish your bonafides. Let us see what you know about the world outside of your native land.
  19. Posted by: Pankaj on 3/20/2010 8:49 PM
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    As to sexism, I am not going to get into a fight over who is more sexist than who. Although your identification of "how many videos you see where the girl/woman who made the video is randomly insulted for her supposed..." as a sign of sexism, is quite .. shall we say "petty"? That is not sexism - only a sign of idiotic characters living in this world. As far as I know, men do make references to some female's unattractiveness once in a while - although most do not resort to this as an insult. This mode of attack is predominantly female vs female. Sometimes, females take this style attacking men too. However very few if any men actually respond in kind. This is changing quickly as men are beginning to realize that this is where it hurts for women and are only glad to utilize it to their advantage. Calling feminists - "fuglies" is not only legitimate (because they are fuglies, if not on the outside, definitely on the inside) - its a good thing.
    Also, please do not talk about religion unless you want to get into a theological debate, worse, prefaced with "majority of religions" your claim quickly becomes meaningless.
  20. Posted by: Please.. on 3/22/2010 3:29 AM
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    Women are more sexist than men? It's a sign that this movement is at the end of its tether when it has to resort to lies to sustain itself.
  21. Posted by: Please.. on 3/22/2010 4:22 AM
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    Also, Mark, your brandishing of "men are more victims of violent crime than women" is misrepresenting and (deliberately?) dishonest, because it's basically a false comparison. Men are, on average, many, many times more likely to be involved with gangs (of which there are more than 30,000 identified in the US alone), drugs, organized crime, the mafia, and petty deviant behavior. If women were involved in these situations proportionately, then violence against women would be the same. As it is, you've chosen to take two dissimilar situations, compare them, and lament the disparity. If you really want to get an idea REAL victimization, compare women and men in the SAME situation and control for the very egregious confounding variables you've chosen to ignore. This is like me saying, "Well women are paid less than men overall!", while ignoring that women tend to choose less presitigous careers. Likewise, your charge, "Men are more victims of violent crime!" ignores that men on a much larger scale actively seek violent situations. You do know what a confounding variable is?

    The only way to gauge violence against either gender and to decide whether it is innate to that gender is to make a true comparison: put men and women in the same situation and then observe if one is more victimized. When we actually do this, we find women are disadvantaged. Men and women can be at the same party, for instance, and one will run the risk of being assualted, drugged, or raped. Both can be on the subway, and one will run the risk of being assualted. Both can be in the workplace, and one will be more sexually harassed. Both can be in a marriage, and one will be, on average, more abused.

    So, let's stop peddling these false comparisons, shall we?
  22. Posted by: Please.. on 3/22/2010 6:24 AM
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    "Although your identification of "how many videos you see where the girl/woman who made the video is randomly insulted for her supposed..." as a sign of sexism, is quite .. shall we say "petty"?"

    Well this is pretty telling about Pankaj's attitudes toward the topic. When this issue of rampant sexist and misogynist comments and videos on Youtube and elsewhere is brought up, he calls her 'petty' for wanting to take a stand against it. Any more ridiculing tactics you have up your sleeve?
  23. Posted by: Pankaj on 3/22/2010 4:22 PM
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    I shudder at what "take a stand against" means to feminists and females. Could it be because taking a stand in the real world means exposing yourself to violence, something women choose not to do? Its funny, how feminists can have it both ways.

    Yes, it is petty and there is not a iota of misogyny in that.
    As to making the comparisons and putting the numbers - I am glad that MRAs are putting them out there. Too bad that you cannot restrict the discourse thanks to the internet. It is amazing that the perennially lying feminists have the gall to tell others what they should and should not say, what is false and what is not. Physician heal thy self .. first
  24. Posted by: Sophia Karas on 3/22/2010 8:37 PM
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    This is amusing. When did I say I or feminists wanted to restrict internet content?

    Your claim that there is not one iota of misogyny is also amusing (sad). Check out this very non-controversial youtube video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0W8AXaHp1A, with literally hundreds of misogynist comments. And this is for ONE video. Couple that with the widespread sexual harassment of young women who make videos as contrasted with young men who make videos. LisaNova vs. ShaneDawson, for instance, or MemeMolly vs. JohnnyDurham19. Also add to that various men who like uploading scenes from movies directly featuring violence against women because they actively enjoy it. High Plains Drifter includes a rape scene some man strategically cropped to share with other men who also enjoy it, as does The Crush, the Godfather, Diamonds are Forever, Titanic, and the Gauntlet. I didn't have to seek out these videos, either. I was simply looking at videos I liked on Youtube over the years and came across these cropped scenes. Pay close attention to the comments, also. Also a favorite with my brother and his friends was the "Sean Connery Five Fingered Slap", which has hundreds of thousands of views. Add to that Dick Masterson's videos and page, a guy who can make a very good living out of hating women and appear on four TV shows. These are concrete examples, by the way. There is much more scattered sexism everywhere else on the internet. I just got an email with a funny attachment: "Frog Fail", and in the comment box was a guy wanting to "fuck an emo girl's vagina until it bleeds".

    Really? There's no misogyny on the internet and us women are "petty" for bringing this up? I guess we have to endure this unfairness or else be called ridiculing names by MRAs. How dare I mention this inequality for myself and all the other young girls on the internet!
  25. Posted by: Pankaj on 3/23/2010 7:15 AM
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    "I guess we have to endure this unfairness or else be called ridiculing names by MRAs."

    I feel so sorry for you. You go online, and have to read comments that offend you. Oh.. The horrors! The inequality (never mind that inequality is not injustice)! The Misogyny!

    It is an endless laughing riot for me to imagine what it would be like, if you had to really endure some real injustices. Such trivialities can be an issue only for the privileged who have nothing better to complain about, but what someone said, somewhere, to someone, at sometime on someone else's turf/property.
  26. Posted by: goLookGoRead on 6/22/2010 6:17 AM
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    I recently read somewhere on the internet that the mention of 'political correctness gone mad' was in itself an indication of having politically incorrect motivations... and it had the effect of shutting me up!

    Political Correctness and Feminism - Yes, some men use their fists, and some women use their mouths in the same way! I've been on the receiving end of both. However, you shouldn't forget that women were considered economically and domestically "the property of men" right into the 20th Century - and we are still suffering a huge gap in salaries, pensions, child-care bias, etc. I hate violent men because I have suffered violent men during my life. I also hate it when a man abuses my femininity and my hard work - by demanding that I should work for him while he does nothing (which has also happened to me with many men I have gone out with - and it happens with my own husband now) - however - men do not deserve to be used by women for 'whatever they can get from them' ... and men have a perfect right to expect better from those of my gender who treat them like a 'commodity'.

    It is very easy to fall into a mindset of 'envy' (I think of envy as the worst kind of hate - because it leads to racism, misogyny and man-bashing behaviour) irrespective of gender or race, it is 'envy' itself that creates urban rude behaviour. Stop labelling people racist or politically correct/incorrect, male or female and start talking about being 'envious' for what 'envy' really is - the most divisive thing in the universe!

    Political Correctness and Racism - Harlesden and Brent, the 'Heinz 57' borough of London, is where I experience arrogance, and rudeness everyday whenever I step out of my front door. The politically correct intelligentsia haven't got a clue because they have a choice not to live in Harlesden. I do not call my neighbourhood 'multi-cultured' because 'culture' (imnsho) can't exist alongside council estate ghettoism combined with a selfish type of street culture. The only genuine 'multi-cultured' society happens in more affluent parts of London where everybody can afford to live decent lives among well educated and polite society.

    I am a white woman and I live in Harlesden in London. I hate living in Harlesden, but Harlesden is where I can afford to exist (I would not call it 'a life', in the sense of living, because I don't like the quality of my life here in Harlesden - even though it is a relatively green borough and it is quite close to the centre of London).

    In an ideal world we would get a government who would rob from the rich and give to the poor, but that is never going to happen! So 'envy' control is a logical approach. So I shut up and put up hoping that one day me, and my man, will afford to escape the country or escape to the country.
  27. Posted by: Nate on 6/22/2010 1:10 PM
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    @goLookGoRead
    However, you shouldn't forget that women were considered economically and domestically "the property of men" right into the 20th Century - and we are still suffering a huge gap in salaries, pensions, child-care bias, etc.


    This link, clearly explains that the wage-gap is not a product of gender-discrimination, but rather is a function of decisions that men make that women don't. These decisions compound into the difference between incomes and conclusively prove that women's choices (and not patriarchy or oppression) have created this gap.

    As to your abusive relationship. I hope you've escaped it and if you have children, that they've not been affected by it.

    I will address your other points in the next couple of days.
  28. Posted by: goLookGoRead on 6/23/2010 4:02 AM
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    Thank you for the time you spent in composing your reply. I really mean that.

    I cannot pack up and move from London because of the care needs that we have for our elderly. So there are practical concerns as well as financial. When we first moved to Harlesden we were both optimistic that the neighbourhood would improve, and that our lives would improve along with the neighbourhood. No it hasn't happened, but a solution will indeed come, it just can't happen as fast as we would like. Living in a bad neighbourhood does cause us some stress sometimes - just getting rid of that stress relatively soon would be great. No we do not have children, instead we have a nephews and nieces.

    My husband and I have been now married 11 years, and have been together 17 years - and we have been nice with one another and sometimes horrible with one another. We live and learn from eachother and with eachother, but he is my beloved companion for better and for worst. (Our worst behaviour has not been that type of constantly abusive behaviour that causes irreperable hurt and permanent psychological damage. I have however suffered some bruises sometimes, and I have 'envied' that I don't have Bruce Lee's skills and surprise him with my amazing ability to block his frustrations! This is only my fantasy!) More seriously however. we have given eachother a chance to grow and learn, and that is a good thing.
    The negatives were our mistakes.

    A few months back I read some books written by Ayn Rand: "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal" and "The Fountainhead" and she was making the same or similar points as you have done. I had never considered capitalism in that light before - hence a new perspective for me to reflect on.

    'Envy control' is very much a personal choice and something that I self-police. You haven't convinced me that 'envy' is the same thing as 'greed' yet. I see 'envy' as yearning to have something that you don't have (consumerism and marketing plays to our sense of envy). I see 'greed' as hoarding more and more, and possibly too much. No my own 'envy' is not right, I should have said that.

    Ofcourse it very unfair that people who have worked hard, been successful, and hoarded up immense wealth should have their hard work confiscated from them so that it is distributed to the poor - and you quite rightly say that this ideal, historically and politically has not worked. This solution is indeed extreme I agree with you.

    I see 'envy' being the culprit of human divisiveness, and in the worst the 'envy' scenario, the ideal is that the government would rob from the rich and give to the poor (that is an English tale if I'm not wrong? Therefore a literary ideal?).

    Now for my own 'envy'. I envy weath producers because they are able to make opportunities for themselves in a way that I cannot even dream about. I just never learnt the secret of success through hard work. I think that I have always worked hard, without much success, and for that I am both 'envious' and dissappointed in myself. Should I stop working (or persisting) in my quest for a type of success I will never have? Just in the same way the wealth producers would stop creating wealth were to constantly confiscate it from them?

    Racism, superiority and inferiority. Money, superiority and inferiority. Gender, superiority and inferiority. Ageism, superiority and inferiority. Who, what, how, why is a superior or an inferior? I don't have a logical answer, apart than this sense of 'envy' towards strangers that I perceive have greener grass in their garden than I have in mine.

    I am envious of immigrants because they find this country to be their land of opportunity, and I have lost that same sense of hope myself. I think men are envious of women because they can't experience a new life in the same way that us women can (that I can't either). I think I envy my man, or men in general, because of his physical strength, because it gives him a type of freedom and determination that I cannot attain on my own without his help. This 'envy' can become perverted into a sense of 'victimization' - the feeling of being a 'victim' - and stupidly so, it can become perverted into a feeling of irrational hate.

    I grew up in a Fascist state. George Orwell experienced it too. To have a scent of Fascism sends shudders up and down my spine!

    Certain aspects of Fascism were never killed off in this country (and I am not referring to the British National Party here, but more generally, to an English-British society that I also grew up in). Britain never suffered Fascism in quite the same way as occupied countries did (just like it never suffered a social revolution with quite the same force that most of Europe did) - I am glad that this didn't happen to Britain and that Britain remained free from those horrors. If I really have a Fascist scent that would be a terrible personal tragedy for me, because I would be insulting the memory of those who were good in my own family. My country's television is far more fascinated about airing daily doses of Fascism than I imagine German television is, and that is more of a threat to me than the BNP - that to me is indeed a horrible scent. No, no, no, I am not a Fascist.

    Wow I am glad I wrote my original comment, because you have indeed given me a lot to think about.
  29. Posted by: goLookGoRead on 6/23/2010 8:19 AM
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    Hi Nate,
    Thank you for the link to the American study about the pay gap between men and women. I must be honest, it is a very long and detailed report and I do not have the knowledge to prove or disprove its conclussions. An obvious discrepancy however is that it is about the American gender pay gap - I live in Britain! There must be significant differences.

    I have found study done in Australia but about European pay gap, that is showing a similar level of detail.

    http://dspace.anu.edu.au/bitstream/1885/43252/1/DP510.pdf - I haven't read it yet. But I have downloaded yours as well as this one.

    Statistics and reports can both present information depending on the intentions of the authors - and I'm sure another academic report is bound to exist that will contradict that point of view also. Have you read the detail of your report yourself? I'm not being argumentative with this question - it is just that I have had books and reports quoted at me, and have gone away and read them and done my best to understand them, only to find that the person quoting them actually owned up to me that they hadn't read them! But if you have studied the report, and indeed the difference between incomes is conclusively proven as being women's choices (and not patriarchy or oppression) have created this gap - I can't dispute what happens in America.

    I can however dispute what happens in Britain, from my own experience about how I've had to make my own choices and how I was supported to make those choices in the past. I sincerely think it isn't just a question of choices simply because of the choices available. But I appreciate that things have changed since I first had to make those choices.

    I look forward to reading your comments, because they are really stimilating.
  30. Posted by: goLookGoRead on 6/23/2010 8:40 AM
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    I can't believe the news today - the first Conservative Budget discussed by the media from the top of Nottingham's castle - 'Rob the rich to pay the poor' or vice versa - depending on one's political leanings. Not looking forward to the effects on my utility bills of a 2.5% VAT rise in January. If I survived 22% interest rates during the 80s, I should be able to survive 2.5% VAT - lets hope things don't get any worse for a economy.
  31. Posted by: Mark on 6/23/2010 9:53 AM
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    @goLookGoRead:

    I've answered your first post in a whole new blog post. Check out the front page if you want to see it.
  32. Posted by: Neil on 7/3/2010 6:15 AM
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    I can't say women are more or less sexist than men, but, I can say that sexism toward men is far more likely to be tolerated by both. The sad thing, to me, is that men and women ARE different and we don't see enough appreciation toward those differences. I don't care what social influences you place on either sex, both are wired differently in some ways. Women are better at certain things because of these differences. So, are men. That's not to say there can't be exceptions. There are also markedly different relational needs between the sexes.

    Not recognizing the differences with acceptance and tolerance is the problem. Is there any reason we can't appreciate the differences? NO. We just choose not to. Aren't there advantages to being a women? A man? Disadvantages?

    Equality, in my opinion, is about respect, appreciation, and acceptance. It's not about eliminating authority and power over others or redistributing things. People need to respect, appreciate, and accept each other because it's right, not because it was given first. And, it's up to us as individuals to figure out how to do this in the way that others will receive it.

  33. Posted by: goLookGoRead on 7/3/2010 11:30 AM
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    On political correctness: I like the way this article has been written:
    "What is America?" G. K. Chesterton http://libertynet.org/edcivic/chestame.html
  34. Posted by: sincerelyyours on 7/6/2010 8:05 AM
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    To Mark,

    I have several regional evidence that Feminism is very important. In the USA, the ratio of payment for man and woman still holds a big gap. This may not be true to all the countries, but the difference exists. Also, the number of college graduated woman is on the rise but there is still lack of post-graduate female population in the US. I will here-by eliminate the additions of how many countries that woman still do not own enough bio-political power.

    You argument seems to be all base upon assumptions about feminism, yet you have discounted all the professorship in the field, who I may add understand the basis in which I will quote disappointedinhumanity "I believe feminism is the goal towards attainment of basic human rights for everyone." Your aggressive reply simply reminds me of how little statistical facts you can conjure up while you argue all your basis upon "impression" or "stereotypes".

    However, I will salute you for opening the discourse for feminism. Since, only through discourse can we understand the effect of technology and result on feminism. However,you have level the argument to the point of political correctness. Feminism does not exist for political correctness, for it is simply a tool for us to question the the assumptions of the society. Unfortunately, I have found your argument filled with assumptions and filled with essentialism. I am very happy to hear voice like Neil, who has point out the need to understand value system. I am not sure Mark, you have actually questioned your own language which is filled with assumed value system, that I do suggest you re-articulate and understand your language.Your stories in which minorities bashes against white-male who were political correct in there whole lives. Well, I do not agree that you should always diminish your argument to the experiences of your little 'pub gatherers'. There are existence of white supremacist in the States today, for I do not doubt for a second that you do not identity with them.However, I can not be so sure that simply that you do not identify with them does not meant that you, Mark does not prescribe the same kind of sexist ideal like they do.

    This video opens a bigger gap between the sex by generalizing. You argue that white-male became the target due to generalization by these other racial and sex groups, then perhaps you are doing the same thing by pointing fingers to all woman and all the particular as racist. By not recognizing the scholarships who we should be looking towards to as a whole, your series of video about anti-feminism seems to have lesson its values as a discursive tool to understand why should we create a more understanding feminism that is also technologically award, for you drawn people into the same polar experience of being racist or not racist. In one of your youtube video, you argue that feminist are filled with poor scholarship. Perhaps, you ought to read some Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak, who has a better literary understanding then most woman or man that I have read.

    When I have read your blog title and bio, I have come to understand you to be man with a strong desire to express ideas, but I do not identify any middle ground in most of your arguments. You seems to be really to be lead astray by the current society formation of linear thinking. "I am anti-feminist, anti-P.C...." It is one thing to be assured of your own existence, but another thing to be so prescribe to your identity which is nothing more than a social construct, which is why your arguments seem to be always on the level of you immediate surrounding and your friends.

    Before I closed off. I have to apologize for my English. I am still in the stage of perfecting it, because I am still an immigrant to the US. I still really like your blog, for it is filled with great thoughts and reflection of the society. Keep up the great work.

    Sincerely,
    SW W. Wu
  35. Posted by: Mark on 7/7/2010 12:58 AM
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    Sincerelyyours. If you want to have a more in-depth conversation, then the best thing to do would be to send me an email by using the “contact” button on the top menu.

    I have several regional evidence that Feminism is very important. In the USA, the ratio of payment for man and woman still holds a big gap. This may not be true to all the countries, but the difference exists. Also, the number of college graduated woman is on the rise but there is still lack of post-graduate female population in the US. I will here-by eliminate the additions of how many countries that woman still do not own enough bio-political power.


    The ratio of payment for men vs. Women is due mainly to women’s choices. See my category on this:
    http://www.true-equality.net/category/11.aspx

    Also, the number of college graduated woman is not merely on the rise, but eclipses men in college. They still get the benefit of discrimination in their favour in many places and politicians and university officials to beat the drum for them in the courses where there aren’t more women (like the sciences). Since women have demonstrated that they can dominate certain subject, then why isn’t a lack of women in other subjects merely the outcomes of women’s choices?

    You argument seems to be all base upon assumptions about feminism, yet you have discounted all the professorship in the field, who I may add understand the basis in which I will quote disappointedinhumanity "I believe feminism is the goal towards attainment of basic human rights for everyone." Your aggressive reply simply reminds me of how little statistical facts you can conjure up while you argue all your basis upon "impression" or "stereotypes".


    My response to disappointedinhumanity was quite civil. Feminism does not fight for basic human rights because it is a victims movement. They seek a political solution to their personal problems, like their problems in life. People of all groups seek to alleviate responsibility and to do this they weave a self-perpetuating delusion of oppression and blight. They are not liars, they believe this, but it is a religious-like belief. The belief becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as people react to them in negative ways because of their radicalism and they, in turn, use this as further evidence for their cause. They use a politically correct society to oppress men, to “rectify” the wrong against women (women, used as an extension of themselves normally). They become more and more twisted and the classical human tale of demonization of the other means that they don’t care how badly men get treated, after all, they deserve it. Less radical women who don’t know the true nature of feminism give it their support but they aren’t bitter enough to push an agenda like the radicals do. So the garbage rises to the top and can have a real effect on all of our lives. See Harriett Harman.

    I don’t have time for the rest of what you said. You seem to be shot-gunning points and I don’t have the patience to write pages to refute. Pick one topic of you want to have a detailed discussion.

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